And it's kind of funny because yeah the basically the problem with Catan though is there is like a lot of RNG at the end of the day It is just dice roll and you know a typical dice curve should go up and then down but sometimes you just have games where it goes up drops drops And so I tried to find it's a funny people would not expect this to be about board games but I tried to find a board game that was a little less RNG But then the problem is like chess it just gets to the point where it's purely skill And then in my opinion it's like who's willing to give up the most of their life Cause like I feel like it could be a phenomenal chess player if I spent 30 years studying and I don't want to spend 30 years So that's where I came to the conclusion It has to be a little bit of RNG but preferably it's not super RNG And so like I landed on this game Dune which is kind of a good combo where yeah and it's super nerdy but that's why I'm really into it And I feel like if you're good you can still consistently win But there's a little bit of an element where you know it mixes things up And so yeah So did this happen Was this like early in your life that you got this like strategy game addiction